Hello all

Fri Jun 30 11:43:57 EDT 2000

I was using telix dialed directly in to the shell account when I had that
ability. I think both were set to vt100, but it's probably that dos screen
reader that doesn't give proper feedback of where you are.
At 09:30 AM 6/30/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi Terry,
>Comnet is shareware, they ask for $30.00.  As a matter of fact I am using
>it now, I am logged into a Sparc 20 running Solaris at the moment.  I
>haven't tried Exceed myself though there is a blind programmer here at
>where I work who has had a fair amount of success with that program.
>Brent, the way your keys are interpreted when you telnet in, depends on
>the terminal emulation you are running.  If your telnet program is running
>vt100 and your TERM is set to vt100, your arrow keys should behave the
>same way if you were sitting at the console.
>
>     Jim
>
>
>On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Klarich, Terry wrote:
>
>> I like to use exceed.  It is a package of various clients (ftp, telnet
>> rlogin ...).  It is not share ware.  Williams puts it on all their issued
>> laptops.  It has an X server which is some what usable.
>> 
>> The telnet.exe which comes with windows is almost useless.  I very much
>> agree linux is the way to go.
>> 
>> Where do you get coment?  Is it shareware or freeware?
>> Terry
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jim Wantz [mailto:jwantz at hpcc2.hpcc.noaa.gov]
>> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 2:38 PM
>> To: 'speakup at braille.uwo.ca'
>> Subject: RE: Hello all
>> 
>> 
>> Hey Terry,
>> The question is: "what telnet program do you use to access your UNIX boxes
>> from WINDOWS?  I have found that comnet works better than the stock telnet
>> that comes with WINDOWS.  Unfortunately coment works a little better with
>> WINDOW-EYES than with JFW.  Of course Linux telnet works the best.
>> 
>> Brent, if you happen to be running the csh or tcsh shells on your isp the
>> following is the equivalent of what Terry did with ksh:
>> setenv TERM vt100
>> 
>>      Jim
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Klarich, Terry wrote:
>> 
>> > Hey brent:
>> > 
>> > Well, Williams provides me a laptop.  On my laptop, I am running (or
>> trying
>> > to run) windows.  I use both jfw and jfd.
>> > 
>> > When my laptop  is docked, I have an ethernet connection to all the
>> machines
>> > I am responsible for.  I use telnet from my laptop to connect.
>> > 
>> > When I am in the data center, I use a serial connection directly from my
>> > laptop to the console port of the machine I am working on.  We do not put
>> > keyboards or monitors on our equipment in the data center.  In fact, I
>> don't
>> > know any organization that does.
>> > 
>> > It sounds like you were unable to edit a file properly because your TERM
>> > environment variable was not set properly.  Generally, you should use
>> vt100.
>> > With ksh as your shell do:
>> > 
>> > TERM=vt100
>> > export TERM
>> > 
>> > Note, "TERM" is in caps.
>> > 
>> > Terry
>> > 
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: brent harding [mailto:bharding at greenbaynet.com]
>> > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 1:02 PM
>> > To: speakup at braille.uwo.ca
>> > Subject: RE: Hello all
>> > 
>> > 
>> > How do you access these type of systems with speech? Does speakup work on
>> > those machines, or how do you edit files on those systems, because dos
>> > communications programs don't edit remote files easily. I messed up my
>> > shell account on my old provider because the arrow keys actually send
>> weird
>> > stuff to the file.
>> > At 08:53 AM 6/29/00 -0500, you wrote:
>> > >Hey Jim:
>> > >
>> > >Thanks for the note on Bill being the person who built the redhat
>> > >installation disks.  I plan to upgrade my home machine from 6.0 to 6.2
>> this
>> > >weekend by using speakup.  (Can't wait)!
>> > >
>> > >Actually, I am a senior systems analyst for Williams Communications
group
>> > >(wcg).  I primarily design and take care of large sun clusters running
>> > >solaris.  We have some AIX and hpux equipment as well.
>> > >
>> > >Like you, I would not even consider installing redhat via ppp.
>> > >
>> > >Terry
>> > >
>> > >-----Original Message-----
>> > >From: Jim Wantz [mailto:jwantz at hpcc2.hpcc.noaa.gov]
>> > >Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 2:55 PM
>> > >To: 'speakup at braille.uwo.ca'
>> > >Subject: RE: Hello all
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Hi Terry,
>> > >And I thought I'd been around UNIX for a long time, my first exposure
was
>> > >with SUN/OS around 1992.  By the way, Bill Acker is the ultimate
>> authority
>> > >on which disk names are what, because he built the Redhat ones.  Though
>> > >I've been programming in C since about the mid 80s, I know nothing about
>> > >kernel hacking or drivers.  I sure want to learn though!
>> > >
>> > > PPP would be a very tough go for installing Linux.  I'm not even sure
>> I'd
>> > >want to try it from my cable modem--but the time required on a 56K
>> > >connection would be ridiculous.  Go with the CD!
>> > >
>> > >     Jim WB0TFK
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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