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Jim Wantz jwantz at hpcc2.hpcc.noaa.gov
Thu Jun 29 10:05:15 EDT 2000


Hey Kirk,
I believe you still run WINDOWS, so the others please excuse this
non-Linux topic.  I tried running Java using Internet Exploder, the Java
Access Bridge.  I was running JFW and performed the installation that
would allow Java to speak.  The installation program "spoke" fine, but
when I tried executing some sample programs written by Peter Korn from
Sun, I got nothing but errors.  There are some very cool features in Java,
particularly event handling that I'd like to employ.  I'd like to be able
to represent certain graphical data like cloud top temperatures as
measured from a satellite, by having the user move a mouse pointer and
listen to a changing tone.  Then the user could get the location of the
pointer by clicking, which would give latitude/longitude coordinates or a
description like "southwest Louisiana".  My question to you is, have you
had any luck with Java in WINDBLOWS?

      Jim WB0TFK


On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Kirk Wood wrote:

> The big reason you see requirements for Netscape or Internet Explorer to
> run the java apps from the web is they are the only two major browsers,
> and there is an assumption they are the only ones with ability to run java
> inside of them.
> 
> Now for more detail. Java always runs in a "virtual machine." This allows
> the java app to only perform things allowed by the virtual machine. The
> idea is to allow you to not have to worry about a virus or something as
> the java app would only be allowed to work within the vm and not infect
> the system.
> 
> Now Microslop decided they wanted more functionality (with the sideline
> benefit of allowing a new breed of virus). So they made their own vm that
> allows some ugly things to be done to your computer. Also their extensions
> made proprietary changes. Theyadamently refused to release the changes
> back to Sun violating the lisence and are now prohibited from installing
> the vm by default while the case continues to be hammered out in
> court. (Read M$ tries to delay their loss.) This new "junctionality" also
> helps ensure that people will use their developement tools and their OS as
> guess what the only place to get it is?
> 
> Now one problem facing blind people is there are no text based browsers
> with Java ability to my knowledge.
> 
> -- 
> Kirk Wood
> Cpt.Kirk at 1tree.net
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