Standalone E-Mail

Janina Sajka janina at afb.net
Sun Jun 25 18:54:36 EDT 2000


Yes, and I'm suggesting this is unreasonable. It may serve their
needs. Clearly, it doesn't serve yours.


On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, brent harding wrote:

> The point is that they bounce mail after just four hours, causing you to
> get kicked off a list if five mails come in with in that time.
> At 05:37 PM 6/25/00 -0400, you wrote:
> >Well, all I can say, is that any ISP worth its salt should queu mail when
> >your system is off line. To do otherwise is to disregard reality. No box
> >is always online, not even the ones that are supposed to be. To clean up
> >the common saying, stuff happens. The best intentions of being up 24 by 7
> >will go awry from time to time.
> >
> >I think there's no avoiding the need to have mail queu when the assigned
> >delivery address is unavailable. I know that our isp for afb.net, for
> >example, queus for five days.
> >
> >				Janina Sajka, Director
> >				Information Systems Research & Development
> >				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> >
> >janina at afb.net
> >
> > On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, brent harding wrote:
> >
> >> Cool, never thought about that before, nothing I ever used before could
> >> compose offline. What I've thought of is is to deal with what happens to
> >> mail addressed directly to my linux box, as my isp puts an x-from and puts
> >> my linux box domain, which is valid when I'm online in the x-from header.
> >> The hostname is set this way so telnet and other things can work when I
> >> need them to, that's not as critical because people could try later when
> >> I'm on, but mail doesn't cue up and stay there until I get on to have my
> >> system receive it for whatever alias it may go to. The only other solution
> >> would be a speech friendly way to run windows under linux, for when windows
> >> is needed, so I could leave my system on in windows and my linux stuff
> >> would continue working.
> >> At 11:48 AM 6/25/00 -0400, you wrote:
> >> >Hi, Brett:
> >> >
> >> >I just wanted to drop you note about how I handle mail on my notebook
> >> >computer. Needless to say, it's off-line a lot. First, it's not my main
> >> >machine when I'm in the office, and it's off-line a lot when I travel
> >> >because I'm on a plane, or something. Becides, in places like Europe, it's
> >> >far too expensive to just leave it up online from one's hotel room.
> >> >
> >> >So, here's what I do. I hope it helps you:
> >> >
> >> >1.)	I use fetchmail to get all of my incoming mail from my isp after
> >> >establishing a ppp connection;
> >> >
> >> >2.)	Since I use sendmail as my mailor, I then issue the command --
> >> >
> >> >	sendmail -q0
> >> >
> >> >	that's send mail dash q zero
> >> >
> >> >to dump the messages that have been qued for transmittal.
> >> >
> >> >This works because sendmail is not loaded as a daemon on my system. It's
> >> >only active when I issue the command above, or another specific sendmail
> >> >command.
> >> >
> >> >This way, I can write all the messages I want in Pine without trouble,
> >> >whether or not I'm writing on the airplane, or at my desk in my room, and
> >> >whether or not I'm online when I write them. They're simply qued for later
> >> >transmittal, which is accomplished by the sendmail -q0 command once I'm
> >> >online.
> >> >
> >> >PS: I've also set the smtp address in my Pine configuration to my isp.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >-- 
> >> >
> >> >				Janina Sajka, Director
> >> >				Information Systems Research & Development
> >> >				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> >> >
> >> >janina at afb.net
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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> >				Janina Sajka, Director
> >				Information Systems Research & Development
> >				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> >
> >janina at afb.net
> >
> >
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				Janina Sajka, Director
				Information Systems Research & Development
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

janina at afb.net






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