not to appear to be on the band wagon but it dawned on me that I might not have thanked you for your hard work too. It is truly exciting to have linux talking on my machine with the use of speakup. Thanks! -- Hands-On Technolog(eye)s ftp://poehlman.clark.net http://poehlman.clark.net mailto:poehlman at clark.net voice 301-949-7599 end sig.