Oh yes - And this should appear in the "ip-down" script: # Stop ping if you started it in /etc/ppp/ip-up. killall ping 2>/dev/null Chuck. My web site is http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh You can bring any calculator you like to the midterm, as long as it doesn't dim the lights when you turn it on. -- Hepler, Systems Design 182