Well, you'll have to wait until speakup-0.09 is released for the 2.3.99 and 2.4 stuff when it's released. They made significant changes to the kernel so the current version of speakup will not work with them. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061